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Why Flipkart Affiliate Program Cannot be trusted, and why I will never use it again.

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Update: June 7th 2014 1600 IST.
Yesterday night at around 11PM Mr Manmeet Singh (Channel lead, Affiliate Program) called me and tried to explain there is no fraud and they are not trying to fleece the affiliates. And in between mentioned that it is a common occurrence and they cancel thousands of order everyday. The reports and cancelation details he sent me seemed genuine.This can not happen as I mentioned below why this can rarely happen. This got me thinking I looked deep into the issue andturns out it is not a case of fraud but, a case of carelessness and sloppy code from their developers. According to their terms, affiliate cookie should be unset when the first sale is made from our link. But they don’t unset it when the sale is made.

So when Moto E was launched, orders were being cancelled automatically for lot of users and every time there tried to order it again, it was counted as a new sale and  credited to our account.

It is not acceptable for a company with this high reputation and size to produce sloppy code like this. This is only one case we found, there could be several such bugs resulting from their sloppy code. A friend of mine uncovered another issue, I can not make it public at this time but will update the post when the time comes.

When there are lot of attacks happening on high profile sites like linked in, ebay, and the vulnerabilities that are discovered everyday, there is no place for sloppy code like this, definitely not on huge sites like flipkart. I might even reconsider shopping on flipkart leave alone being an affiliate. This might seem like I’m blowing this out of proportion, but wait till my friends findings are made public.

They sent me an excel sheet with details about the cancelled orders, and I asked for some further information and offered to remove the post if they bring transparency.

Their response

Things to note here

  • First two users COD verification failed, only they should explain why the orders were credited to my account when verification failed.
  • No issues with the third.
  • The last user is an old friend, we prepared for JEE together in 2004 and haven’t been in touch all these days. I talked to him about it today and he told me that his orders were cancelled every time he tried to order one, so he ended ordering 10times, and was successfully able to order it the following day. A lead I sent them purchased the product even after their failure the first 10 times, yet I haven’t been credited for the sale.

If this is the level of commitment they have towards their affiliates, why should anyone use them?

Here is the proof of my findings. This is my first screencast with voice over, so thanks for bearing with my voice, and the ummmsss.

On 13th May I was casually scrolling to my Facebook feed on my mobile and suddenly a post caught my attention. It was about Moto E, which was being launched the following day exclusively by Flipkart. I thought it was good opportunity to test and play with Facebook ads. I quickly jumped of my bed to get on my Mac, and created an ad and posted in the pages I own and on my own time line.

I posted the ad before the launch as the cookie life time was 24 hours, and posting the ad 12 hours before would increase the reach of the ad by the time it really mattered.

Here are the promoted posts/ads

Flipkarts ad on TechBU‘s fan page, see the reach, shares, likes.
Same performance on TheGeekDaily fan page to.
One more
This one was quite popular, more than 15 people copied this status. With their own affiliate link ofcourse.

As a result of these campaigns, I was able to sell couple of units with in hour of the launch. The final tally before I went to bed that day around 3AM was 12 units sold with a commission of rs 3359.52. This is little less than I spent on the ads, I did not care. I was just happy that my first paid affiliate campaign worked and did not fall flat like a dud.

Everything was good so far until this happened.
I woke up at around 9AM the following day, and the first thing I did was to check the flipkart affiliate earnings. Flipkart affiliates even made it to my bookmarks toolbar yesterday. I was expecting around 25 sales based on how the campaign was doing. I was shocked to see only 3 sales. I immediately mailed their affiliate support and here is how it went.

For this they said that the orders were cancelled by the orders management team. Thing to note here

Their order management team works at night, cool.

We affiliates spend, money, time, and our precious resources to send them leads, instead of doing everything in their power to convert that lead into a sale, they kill the leads.

For this they give me BS, standard answer which doesn’t, say, convey or prove anything.

From here on I was passed as a ball between their order management team and the affiliate team, they did not talk anything that would make sense until I threatened them saying I would write a blog post about the whole incident.

My email to their order management team.

And their order management team asks me to contact their affiliate team, f*** joke.

This is when I replied them strongly and threaded to write a blog post

This is when they started moving their @$$$

If they could not handle the demand why ask us to promote it at all. This not their first exclusive launch, they launched Moto G before this. They should have estimated the demand beforehand.

Then we wouldn’t have invested our time, money and effort in promoting it.

Flipkart asking Affiliates to promote Moto E

Then this new guy comes into picture, I have to explain him everything. Doesn’t seem to have a clue about the issue at hand or how their affiliate system works.

Ask’s me to provide the order ID’s, how they fuck am I going to get them? He keeps asking the same on the phone.

For those who don’t know, flipkarts affiliate reporting sucks. They do not give any useful data, its highly in their favour to alter reports rig data. Forget getting the order ID’s

This is where it gets interesting, and where they take affiliates for fools. Read on to find out what he says is pure BS.

Later, on discussion about this on phone he told me that the orders were made from 2 account. This is why what he said is BS, and why I decided to stop reasoning with them and write this blog post instead.

My last email to them.

If one had happened, then the order wouldn’t have been reordered as only one sale according to their terms.

  1. If in a particular transaction, the customer buys 3 quantities of product ‘A’ and 2 quantities of product ‘B’ the total number of items is 2.

  2. If the same product ‘A’ is ordered by the customer in 2 different orders, number of items would be 2.

A single person ordering a product through my affiliate link even twice is highly unlikely, as according to their terms of services, and FAQ, my cookie will expire as soon as the user places the order.

For someone to buy a product even twice form my affiliate link all the planets and moons in our solar system should come in a straight line. Leave alone ordering 6, that to by two people.

I won’t say I love flipkart, but I don’t hate them either. I’m happy to see a Indian startup reach such heights.
But things like this shouldn’t happen, companies shouldn’t take affiliates for granted we help them build their business. A message has to be sent, they won’t get a free pass out of things like this.

If you have been scammed by Flipkart affiliate program, raise your voice, share your story in comments, share this article. Show them they can not get away with things like these.

PS: To be fair to them, I mailed them about the article and offered to publish their side of the story if they want to.

Other cases of Flipkart fraud

http://winappleworld.com/flipkart-fraud-pricing-stunned/

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